Is David Cameron a Freemason?

And, if so, what effect would that have on his governance, were the MP for Witney (Oxfordshire) to be indirectly elected PM?  UK political blog Recess Monkey wrote this on 12th December:

While conducting deep investigative research (googling) into Opus Dave, I came across this strange reference in google cache.  allanparkinson69 has posted the following text on some sort of masons' chat board saying,

I'd like to congratulate my local Masonic lodge member, David Cameron MP for Witney, on his promotion to Deputy Speaker for the Conservative Party.

As an extremely young MP (thirties) I expect him to be party leader by the end of his political career...

Posted on 4th June, this message predates leadership election character assassinations, though also has a ring of american about it too, so I can't decide whether or not I think it's authentic...

I've traced the original message back to the Usenet newsgroup alt.freemasonry.  allanparkinson69 posted 118 messages to alt.freemasonry between May and September 2003.  The above message was posted not on June 4th 2005 but on July 3rd 2003.  That would make the message more credible, and alanparkinson69's 117 other messages generally indicate a sound mind that's British, not American.

As a sidenote, and coincidentally, the Sunday Times reported on 20 November 2005 that:

THE Conservative party has accepted a £93,000 donation from a fund run by one of Britain's most senior freemasons.

The donation was paid by the Midlands-based Leamington Fund.  No public records exist for the fund, which is an "unincorporated association". 

However, The Sunday Times has established that the fund's chairman is Michael Price, the provincial grandmaster of Warwickshire freemasons.  Price, 70, is the most senior mason in Birmingham and the surrounding area, and is in charge of 200 lodges and about 6,500 masons.  Warwickshire and Oxfordshire are adjoining counties.

ADDENDA

1.  I should note that Recess Monkey was contacted by a spokesman for Cameron who denied that his master was, or has ever been, a Mason.  Which sounds as if his office is quite sensitive about the allegation.  And I'm not sure that a denial that one's master is a Freemason is proof of the same.

2.  The original message referred to Cameron's elevation to Deputy Speaker for the Conservative Party, a non-existent post.  However, in June 2003, Cameron was appointed the Conservatives' Deputy Shadow Leader of the House. 

3.  [2006.01.01]  The Leamington Fund, it transpires, gave its £93,000 to the Birmingham, Solihull and Coventry branch of the Conservative Party, not to the national party, sometime in the third quarter of this year (ie between 01 July and 30 September).   

4. [2006.05.07]  Please see later posts:  David Cameron, Garibaldi and Freemasonry and The Press Gallery's Masonic Lodge(s).

Comments

[SID]

is cameron a freemason?

[A TRUISM]

I am impartial, independent and not of any particular political party. I am purely interested in justice, truth, fairness, equality, peace and democracy. 1) The stealth issue of Freemasonry is one that The Govt. sought to regulate under the Unlawful Societies Act 1799. 2) The grounds for a question put to anyone about Freemasonry, (including questions put to Tony Blair), simply evolve around the need for absolute transparency, truth, fairness, accountability, ascertainment of personal loyalties and whether or not there are 'safe grounds' to build future, cohesive trust relationships with ordinary people. 3) Today there is irrefutable, probative evidence that Freemasonry is unfortunately being unfairly used for 'seditious purposes' in public life in Britain. 4) It is a written fact within Freemason doctrines that compulsory obligations are imposed on members from a more senior hierachy which require the concealment of the wrongdoing of their fellows. 5) 5 years of independent research today reveals cogent evidence that levels of infiltration within the Civil Service are unregulated and somewhat voluminous. 6) On the grounds of new evidence available today, a Cross Parliamentary Committee would be desirable for the benefit public interest for all factual evidence to be publicly heard. 7) The call for such a Public Affairs Committee would be on the same grounds as the March 1997 Committee tabled by Chris Mullen MP and Martin Short. 8) Therefore, although any question on membership of Freemasonry may be greeted unwelcomely, it is nevertheless a very relevant and highly significant factor of building 'trust relationships' with ordinary people of Britain. Thank you for your time.

[MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT INTEGRITY]

INTEGRITY IN 'PUBLIC OFFICE' IN BRITAIN IS PARAMOUNT. 1) THERE CAN BE NO PUBLIC TRUST IN LOCAL DEMOCRACY IF IT IS SEEN BY THE PUBLIC TO BE A FREEMASONRY. 2) THE MASONIC CIPHER SYSTEM IS EVIDENT IN ABUNDANCE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORRESPONDENCE IN 2004-2007. 3) WHEN MEMBERS OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY ARE ASKED DIRECTLY WHETHER THEY ARE A FREEMASON, MP'S, INCLUDING JOHN BARON MP ARE EXPECTED TO TELL THE PUBLIC THE TRUTH FIRST TIME. THE RELEVANT REASON FOR SUCH A PUBLIC QUESTION IS THAT A MEMBER OF THAT GROUP HAS PUT THEMSELVES UNDER A RESTRICTED AND UNLAWFUL OBLIGATION THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM 'TELLING THE TRUTH' TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT MATTERS OF 'MASONIC WRONGDOING'. 4) THERE EXISTS THE EVIDENCED DUTY TO PROTECT OR CONCEAL CRIME. 5) HARMFUL PREJUDICIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST/DECEPTION/FRAUD/UNLAWFUL COVERUP ARE ALL MATTERS THAT ARE TODAY BEING CONCEALED TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE GREATER PUBLIC INTEREST. (MP's are aware but do nothing) THAT IS A FACT. (also see Hansard Parliaments Records col 658/659 on 14/2/1994)

[FREEMASONS TO ABOLISH THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT ?]

THE TRUE DECEPTION (2007) On the grounds of the good public vigilance by the Echo newspaper, Freemason membership by Councillors at Basildon Council was investigated. The findings of that report were published on 26/6/2007. Speaking about his membership at Hutton Lodge, Freemason Conservative Councillor Frank Tomlin told Jon Austin at the Echo: "It was not a secret society, but a society with secrets, which he is obliged to keep" "But if you did know them it would not give you cause for concern and you would think it strange they had to remain secret" he added. THE PUBLIC HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO BE SUBJECTED TO DETRIMENTAL TREATMENT. For the benefit and protection of the public interest, the public do have a 'right to know' the registered and sworn secrets of the 'society with secrets'. As a fundamental matter of principal, every official should be trustworthy in the statements or decisions they release. Furthermore, the public have the right to be told the whole truth. PUTTING THE DECEPTION OF POLITICS ASIDE THE REAL, TRANSPARENT TRUTH IS THIS : Under the constitution of Freemasonry, one particular mason oath 'found to be taken' at the 13 degree links UK Freemason members by complicit agreement: "You MUST CONCEAL ALL THE CRIMES of your brother masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother mason, always be sure to shield him...it may be PERJURY to do this, it is true, but your keeping your obligations". [Above quoted mason lodge teaching of Edmond Ronayne, The Masters Carpet (Mah-Hah-Bone) 1879 and p.137 Jim Shaw and Tom McKenny, The Deadly Deception(Lafayette, Louisiana:Huntington House Inc 1988). "In the 13th degree the oath is taken to the effect that all crimes are to be concealed including murder and treason." [Above: Quoting ISBN:0-00-502181-2 and on p.137 also see Jim Shaw and Tom McKenny, The Deadly Deception(Lafayette, Louisiana:Huntington House Inc 1988).] To rational non-masons the nature of the above mason oaths taken and sworn inside the Lodge does cause the public concern. This public discovery appears to be unlawful. The keeping of this type of secret obligation may not cause a Freemason Tory Councillor concern, but most may disagree with his masonic perspective. Are these the type of national 'standards in puublic life' the public want to see 'kept secret' in 2007? The Masonic Cipher System The daily use in public life of the masons own Cipher System reveals invaluable evidence to guide every non-mason towards 'finding out' who, in public life, are today a complicit part of a "society with secrets"

[SteveL]

If Cameron is a freemason it would be no big secret, however this post is from some rambling idiot who put up nonsense for a few months in 2003 and then (thankfully) disappeared. One should try do just a little research before passing on poppycock. Here is what I found when following this up: "posted on 24-9-2006 @ 11:52 PM Just wondering, how is this evidence? Some random post on usenet? If you do some further google searches in alt.freemasonry for the author of the post you will find stuff mentioning him as "kook of the month" and you find posts like this- * I was given a watch by a lady of Chinese origin that transpired to contain a camera in it. * Suffer from bouts of "Tinnitus" whenever I speak of the government on the telephone. * The lights *in three of my last four* houses have flashed every few minutes or so, when I walk past them, or speak with parents for example. This didn't happen in a student house where other penetrating young minds would also have spotted it. * When I asked to join the Masons they conspired to lose all the paperwork so I was forced to meet someone at Grand Lodge who answered every question/comment in a negative way as if he'd been offended. He then said "you'd know nothing about being charitable, would you. Get out *young* man" as if it was an offence not to be over the age of 35. Prince Edward also stood behind a door for about a minute but then gave me annoyed vibrations after I went through it without opening it for him first. Source: groups.google.co.uk... IMHO it's just the ravings of a usenet troll (who only posted for a few months in '03)

[SteveL]

If Cameron is a freemason it would be no big secret, however this post is from some rambling idiot who put up nonsense for a few months in 2003 and then (thankfully) disappeared. One should try do just a little research before passing on poppycock. Here is what I found when following this up: "posted on 24-9-2006 @ 11:52 PM Just wondering, how is this evidence? Some random post on usenet? If you do some further google searches in alt.freemasonry for the author of the post you will find stuff mentioning him as "kook of the month" and you find posts like this- * I was given a watch by a lady of Chinese origin that transpired to contain a camera in it. * Suffer from bouts of "Tinnitus" whenever I speak of the government on the telephone. * The lights *in three of my last four* houses have flashed every few minutes or so, when I walk past them, or speak with parents for example. This didn't happen in a student house where other penetrating young minds would also have spotted it. * When I asked to join the Masons they conspired to lose all the paperwork so I was forced to meet someone at Grand Lodge who answered every question/comment in a negative way as if he'd been offended. He then said "you'd know nothing about being charitable, would you. Get out *young* man" as if it was an offence not to be over the age of 35. Prince Edward also stood behind a door for about a minute but then gave me annoyed vibrations after I went through it without opening it for him first. Source: groups.google.co.uk... IMHO it's just the ravings of a usenet troll (who only posted for a few months in '03)

[The Lodge]

If Cameron was a Freemason, the Freemasons wouldnt tell you as the register of members is not made public. Its a secret society you toff!

[steve]

You are extremely right freemasons will have a detrimental effect on the running of the country. All politicians that mess up then get re posted are freemasons. All uk police department sare ran by freemasons hence the massive miscarriages of justice and false arrests. Freemasons come from the catholic templar knights set up by the pope. The catholic church is a massive ecclectic collection of pre semetic religoins including sacrifices. God does not exist. The pope runs the mafia in italy FACT. The US is the FIRST FREEMASON STATE hence why they are attacking other countries. They have control of most of the worlds banks ( coincidentally) politicians dont run our country the banks do. all christian religions were set up by these people to create in fighhting. It has worked. But we let em do it. We never protest. DO THE STUPID PUBLIC deserve saving is the question?

[steve]

You are extremely right freemasons will have a detrimental effect on the running of the country. All politicians that mess up then get re posted are freemasons. All uk police department sare ran by freemasons hence the massive miscarriages of justice and false arrests. Freemasons come from the catholic templar knights set up by the pope. The catholic church is a massive ecclectic collection of pre semetic religoins including sacrifices. God does not exist. The pope runs the mafia in italy FACT. The US is the FIRST FREEMASON STATE hence why they are attacking other countries. They have control of most of the worlds banks ( coincidentally) politicians dont run our country the banks do. all christian religions were set up by these people to create in fighhting. It has worked. But we let em do it. We never protest. DO THE STUPID PUBLIC deserve saving is the question?

[A Stonishing]

Steve these are astonishing statements. People dont protest because they dont understand nor do they want to understand the way these men infiltrate and mislead by stealth. People continue to donate millions of dollars to their cause because they haven't seen 'the evidence' that these men are not a Charity for good but a military order by religion. Other people shrink before these men because they are too afraid to report them. A New World Order is the objective. That new empire, scheduled for 2012, will unleash sheer hell onto those who refuse to convert by force to their ways. This will carry many of the forms of communism. If 2008 finance is not urgently diverted out of the 'Secret Society' sector and into new areas exposing 'its invisible members' - the peoples Democratic freedoms worldwide will most certainly be brought to an end.

[Zoompad]

If David Cameron is a freemason, he will have to reject it when he becomes PM or else he will end up in the dustbin, along with all the other Masonic back scratchers. Freemasonry is evil. It bestows favours on other "brothers" and allows injustice to flourish. If David Cameron rejects this toadyism, he will have to watch his back - but he will have the most wonderful time as Prime Minister and the full support of all the British people. I am not a Tory, or a Labourite, but a Christian.

[Noel Wilson]

The masons seem to believe they are Knights Templar. The sword in one hand the trowel in the other.If anyone wants info. on Freemasonry contact me on Wnoelwilson@aol.com and I will upload it for you.

[Steve]

Well, he does drive a Lexus...

[baruch hashem]

The biggest shame of the world, to be a fake sionist-freemason ! Shame on them ! ! !

[a armstrong]

what a total load of rubbish i can tell you nothing of freemasons or freemasonry

[rich]

This video proves he's illuminati... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDOIkxIiLbk&feature=related I'm sold.

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No he isn't mason, we ask him directly and answer with a serious "NO".

[The Club, St James]

Are you a member of the Carlton Club? Is that where you asked him?

[Monika]

Other people shrink before these men because they are too afraid to report them.

[Neil Down]

@The Carlton Club, St James - Dear boy do read the article at the very top of the page.He was publicly congratulated by a fellow member of his Freemason Lodge.

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